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Achilles, son of Peleus ([personal profile] heelies) wrote in [community profile] futurology2016-04-11 10:49 am

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[ What broadcasts over the network is the picture of a peculiar pair: Achilles and Helga, serious of countenance both, as is each's modus operandi. The metallic shell of the submarine's curved insides serves as their backdrop. ]

I should like to call to assembly the members of this crew, and I understand that this is the best means by which to reach the ears of all men, although it is more to my liking to see those to whom I give these words. It is Achilles, son of Peleus, who wishes to speak to you: I have journeyed, with a crew led by gold-clad Gilgamesh and fair-haired Kida, to the darkest reaches within the sea, which lie beyond where the imagination of men can fathom. I shall tell of that to which we have borne witness.

Down there dwells Ryba, the goddess of the sea, who is Nalanni's sister. She knows not to where Nalanni has gone, for her eyes cannot see beyond that over which she presides - but we have her reassurance that Nalanni who delights in volcanoes has not vanished in full from this land, for she would know if such a calamity has come to pass. We are told that sea and rock are anchored one to another, as life is to death: either both must make this land, or nothing at all remains. Therefore, hope has not scattered to the wind.

Wave-ruling Ryba soon grew weary of our audience, and although she welcomes supplications the price she demands is steep. It is imprudent to test the generosity of the gods. Thus we parted with little solved: still, the answers she granted ought to be shared among all.


[ Helga looks as if she would have loved to interrupt him a fair few times already, but she kept quiet in spite of herself until now. Achilles, for his part, looks none too thrilled at having to share the floor thus. ]

Ryba has not been straightforward in her answers.

[ Surely, she hasn't shot a sideway glance at Achilles when she said this. ]

What we gathered from her is that the Dakal have been driven to (or near) extinction by the Nalawi during the war between them. They had been "sent to the bottom of the sea", either literally or figuratively. It checks out, if I'm allowed to hazard a guess: on our way to Ryba's lair, we came across plenty of wrecked submarines, none of which seem to fit in with the near complete lack of technology on Komo and the other islands.

The goddess mentioned one specific Dakal, who sold her soul in order to return to the surface world. In the process, she may have been granted powers by Ryba herself, but we do not know what became of her, what those powers were, or if she did anything with them.

I have been told by the Nalawi innkeep that minor gods exist alongside Nalanni, albeit no one worships them here. Ryba proves that they are tangible to the point of concern, so I urge all of you to take great care during your exploration.
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-11 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
[ he has his arms folded over a driftwood desk, leaning forward slightly. ]

Good to know that the monotheists haven't taken over yet.

Quite the domino effect, isn't it? Favored gods and all. [ Loki knows that song and dance. there are forces that sweep in and brush all the mythology under the rug, making new gods in their wake. ] Some gods seem to get forgotten among the worship of a single one.

Curiously enough, it seems that the locals, while hesitantly accepting of their fate, see this more as a drain of energy rather than a removal of their gifts. [ a faint shrug. ]

It seems that we have direction now, don't we?

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[personal profile] blacksilk 2016-04-11 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It would be a disappointment if an overall decline in worship were the cause of this.

It's still unknown if natural or unnatural causes are behind the entrapment of power, but the shift of power from one deity to another would make sense if that was how this world's powers flowed.

What sort of display of faith or worship would be sufficient to tip the scales in that event?
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-11 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I doubt the worship thing is the case, though there does seem to be a certain amount of pigeon-holing in terms of a single deity. [ for him it's less about the worship itself. while it was flattering where he was from, it was also a waste. mortals did as they would. ]

Though, since you asked ... I haven't a clue. It depends on ontological nuance, rather than anything concrete. Who knows what types categorization these deities fall beneath, let alone what defines their existence.

[ he tips his head, thoughtful. ]
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[personal profile] blacksilk 2016-04-11 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
We're only somewhat aware of the beliefs and motivations of the local populace within these surrounding islands. A withered and wary group of people won't garner much conviction.

There's also little to nothing to say about the outside world, save for the losing side of the Nalawi's war.


[There were enough holes in their information to resemble where they were. They were small facts floating on an ocean of unknowns--and, they were facts that may as well have bordered on rumor.]

Our questions should motion to motivation. Maybe our approaches have been too concrete.
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-11 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
History is written by the winners.

[ it's said almost off-handed, easy and casual. no matter where you were in the multiverse, there were some things that didn't change—and that was certainly one of them, especially in terms of a timestream. ]

This is a rather good example of that, isn't it?

[personal profile] blacksilk 2016-04-11 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It speaks immensely of how overwhelming that victory must have been.

It had either been so long in the past that age stole the gravity from it or it was such a quick and all-encompassing victory that one could lose sight of it in a few generations.

Genocide, after all, isn't easy for people to forget.
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-17 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That depends on the people. [ Loki says, cooly. there had been types of genocide all around the Ten Realms, Odin had locked off Heven and everyone had all but forgotten of its existence. he wasn't about to wrap that one up, not yet. ]

Sometimes there are those that have the uncanny ability to remake something in certain histories that are easier to swallow—easier to believe. Who's forgetting, and who's remembering, and from what perspective?

[personal profile] blacksilk 2016-04-17 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Precisely. If it was a particularly harsh victory, then the victors had complete control over the stories that were told afterward.

Yet, we don't have official accounts. What information we've gotten has only been speculation and rumor.

Either it's all poorly retold, forgotten or--someone's made it an issue to prevent stories from being told in the first place. Have you managed to speak to anyone of the local councils?
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-19 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
[ if "speak" he means "eavesdrop." ]

I've heard enough of the same retold jabber. Everyone's more concerned over the loss of their goddess, rather than a war that's been long forgotten.

[ there's a moment where he pauses at that though, thoughtful. ]

Hm ...

[personal profile] blacksilk 2016-04-21 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not particularly surprised. I've tried to speak with them, but they were obsessing over personal duels.

It was a little sad, given how depleted their abilities had gotten.


[He added, purposefully--]

The locals are fairly belligerent, aren't they?
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[personal profile] anteil 2016-04-11 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a hint, at least.

| She shifts her weight, frowning slightly. |

We don't know how the gifts proper work. The innkeep had not made it sound as if the gifts ever fainted beyond regular exhaustion. I suppose we will know more once we set off the "bomb".

| There are no airquotes, thankfully, but she does emphasises in the word in a way that indicates that she doesn't consider it a proper bomb. |
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-13 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
[ that's rather curious. Loki's dark brows go up a little bit at the whole "how the gifts work." ]

Energy and magic never really decline—if we're talking about them separately. As the mortals would say: the total in the universe is always zero.

Though I suppose that there's something to be said of different rules. We may not gain much back in terms of Gifts, but we may catch someone's attention.

Which may be better.
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-13 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Ah—well, speaking as a god, I can say that there are a handful of those sorts of technicalities that could bring the divine to a halt. None are so pleasant, not for us, or not for what we represent. Divinity differs from place to place, and the details could be different, but—hm ...

[ Loki chews on his bottom lip, thoughtful. you can almost see the gears in his head turning. ]

Perhaps the drain of energy has taken its toll on her, part of an effect rather than the cause. If there are others around, perhaps inquiries to the specifics of their nature may be beneficial. They haven't exactly asked me out for lunch.
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-16 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Whatever form I choose, I'm always who I am—I'm always me.

[ and that's all he'll say about that. aren't you lucky, Achilles? you got the shapeshifter.

a little smirk plays on his lips, as if it's a break in what seems like an all-too-serious situation. he tosses his hands back and forth in a long gesture.
]

Well, I wouldn't call myself omniscient. That's more of my dad's thing. We're not really the prayer type—well, I'm not, anyway—others ... mm, perhaps. My brother used to like to answer the calls of the mortal realm upon his own will.

Though if you're asking about ALASTAIR's means, it's more that I'd rather not leave, rather than it being in their power to hold me.

[ may as well be somewhat honest, says the god of lies. though, to be fair, he hadn't tried his hand. he figures if he does, then the whole thing would be rather concrete, wouldn't it? ]

I'm of Asgard. Some floating city atop the World Ash, no big.
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-17 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[ this was the mortal-iest thing that anyone's ever said to him. dark brows knit at the center, and there's a curl of his lips into a smile. it looks interesting on his already scheming-type face. ]

The same old things get boring. This or that, or this and that. Sometimes hanging around with the humans in an interdimensional space is loads more fun.

[ there's a pause, and he meets Achilles' eyes. ]

Gods are tied down by the weight of myth and story. The universe wants me to be a certain something, and I'd rather be my own certain thing, no matter how revered I am.

I'll take freedom over worship any day.
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-18 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
You have to be a little more creative—it's not about our captors, it's about opportunity.

[ but that was something Loki found everywhere. ]

See, "fate" and "destiny" are just fancy words for narrative constriction. "Fate" isn't dictated by one person as a million stories would have you suspect. It's dictated by a mass of individuals. It's called resonance.

So, tell me, what weight of a million choices before dictates what we do now?
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-20 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the one million gold question now, isn't it? No one wants to get caught on a technicality.

When you're the one running across alternate dimensions causing certain events, aren't we the ones causing certain fates? Think about it ... [ for the moment, Loki looks at his nails, his voice still mildly interested in what they're talking about. ] We're from different parts of the multiverse, fate is dictated by resonance, we're strangers here—hm—anomalies.

What about keeping the timestream together needs an outsider's touch?

...

Curious ...
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[personal profile] selfimage 2016-04-22 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
I believe that ALASTAIR believes in ALASTAIR's goals. They don't tell us anything because they don't know anything beyond that. They're given their orders from another source.

[ there's still the whole thing with the mechanical room that leaves a sour taste in his mouth. not even his sorcery could break into bindings woven around that place. adding insult to injury, his hands had been painted red for a week (three days, but it felt like a week) for the attempt. ]

It's easy to paint an impossible bubble around the things that the divine don't want mortal hands to touch. It goes a few ways—elder gods and gods, resonance and gods, etcetera etcetera. Sometimes people just don't want you to know things, and they place some clever, convincing rhetoric to surround it. It's ontologically subjective, really, and when you try to turn something subjective into being objective, we run into a few problems.

You're beyond the fingers now, just dip your hand down to the wrist.

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