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[Haise has talked with several teammates about the lack of cohesion, and how difficult it is for all of them to coordinate. It was something he'd meant to discuss, or perhaps encourage others better suited, to bring up when they had some down-time. In the wake of a rather heated debate he chose to sat out on, he thinks maybe conversations about how they unify can't wait]

It seems that some of us may be feeling a little hot under the collar after recent events. Since I am an advocate for mercy, and am only alive because as much was extended to me when others may have argued against it, I don't want to touch on moral disagreements. Our stances will naturally differ, because our organization doesn't give us any unifying principles to abide by.

As a member of the CCG, I had very set guidelines to follow. Those weren't all things I agreed with, or felt right about. But they did maintain order, and did keep people safe. They made us an effective team, and more than once it's come up with colleagues here that we might benefit from that.

This was something I'd hoped might come up on Oska, when people had time to relax, but considering the circumstances...

Would any of you be interested in opening that discussion? That is, talking about our backgrounds, where we're coming from, and what we believe. If we start there, surely we can find a way to work together. If we're constantly at odds with one another, that isn't good for anyone. When I first joined, that division was certainly in place, but those I disagreed with still took the time to speak with me, and we did have common ground. I'd like to suggest that, as a team, we try to find that...for all our sakes.

Edit: Although I spoke of my own background in the example I provided, by no means am I suggesting that everyone do the same. Most importantly, we need to establish where we stand on issues we're often confronted with in our line of work. These things would inevitably show in our actions, so speaking on personal matters is not necessary for discussion.
What each of us believes and what course we're inclined to take is what I mean to inquire about.

[ooc: Naturally, thread-hop/jack as desired]

Comments

[skelepun]

idk, i've always found it kinda impressive, when people can go through hell and still have hope. pretty risky path to take, optimism.

but hey! not on me to say what you or any other human should do or feel, pal. i just had a question. and you sound like you've got some pretty rough stuff in your rear view you're still working out.

[hedonistic]

idk what hope really has to do with anything i said here, dude
and most of the time optimism is just an excuse not to make hard decisions
u just believe everything will work out in the end so u don't really have to think shit through and consider the consequences
like this time, where the team's choices LITERALLY led to the endangerment of not only all of us, but ALSO kittypaw, anyone else who's in oska, anyone in any world u can get to FROM oska

but because they figure they did the more ~morally pure~ thing by not killing them, they're absolved for their part in this
It's Not Their Fault, They Only Wanted To Help, Don't Be So Mean

[skelepun]

well, if you put it that way, i guess i did go on an irrelevant tangent. don't let my cartoonishly huge skull fool ya kid, i'm kinda a dunce. it takes the really clever ones to see that right off the bat.

so, not that all this debating stuff that's already happened isn't rad, but you must be pretty stoked in a way, right? i mean, you were right. next time this comes up, you've got a perfect example to point to. that's gotta feel pretty great.

[hedonistic]

i wasn't even there, dude
i'm only hearing about audentes taking people possessed by zymandis back to their secret hidden home base NOW

i'm just sick of this shit tbh
it was the same damn crap in woodhurst, too
people are legitimately going to lose their capacity for rational thought but in the meantime we have to Respect their Feelings and make sure they don't feel sad that we want to take precautions so they don't end up murdering someone by accident
it's a literal fucking miracle that everyone in that quarantine didn't end up cannibalizing each other

people here are so fucking squeamish about everything they couldn't even talk about fictional hypothetical death in a GAME back when i first fell through the space ceiling to oska

so nah it doesn't feel any better because it's gonna keep happening
and the idealists are gonna keep being superior about their choices when they get lucky and brushing off any consequences that do happen when they don't
it's not even like we get to say fuck it i'm out, either

[skelepun]

superiority can go both ways, but hey, i'm not the one with the monopoly on truth. if you say that's the way it is, then that's the way it must be.

sounds like you don't think the grand majority of the team's ever gotten their hands dirty, tho.

[hedonistic]

[is that?? some kind of dig??? what does that even mean, sans]

idk if they have then they're hypocrites taking out their guilt on anyone who doesn't think It'll All Work Out Somehow is a sustainable strategy

i kind of prefer to think they're naive/in denial tbh

[skelepun]

i see.

welp, like i said. you know best, pal. good luck with that.